God is in the Neurons

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God is in the Neurons
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Mihawk	Oct 14 2011, 10:34 PM Post #31
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	If you really think that logic isn't subjective look at this poll overtime http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm Everyone finds their side to be be more logical then the next. Just because they feel some way doesn't mean that one persons logic is better than the next.



Cal	Oct 14 2011, 10:35 PM Post #32
I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade! Posts: 5,259 Group: Member Member #6,087 Joined: April 25, 2011 Gender Female Favourite Anime hentai What Browser do you use? hentaibrowser Favourite Manga hentai	Firstly, typo on my part, I meant to put faith, not fate my bad :P When I speak of god I refer to the mainstream bible. This is how the chain is shattered. We can disprove a lot of accounts in the bible. The main one is that the Earth is only 3-10k years old. We can prove it's billions of years old, which breaks the chain. I could go on, but this example is enough to break it. I will quit bringing up specifics though, even though the reason people believe in god is because of the records in the bible.... So if I want to disprove god without using the bible how would I go about it? You simply can't disprove it, but the same holds true for all the crazy things out in the universe that are majorly accepted to be false. If your argument ends on, disprove God without using the records of him then it's a pointless argument to begin with. Of course the probability of him existing in this situation is so close to 0% it's not even funny... Edited by Cal, Oct 14 2011, 10:38 PM.



Cal	Oct 14 2011, 10:37 PM Post #33
I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade! Posts: 5,259 Group: Member Member #6,087 Joined: April 25, 2011 Gender Female Favourite Anime hentai What Browser do you use? hentaibrowser Favourite Manga hentai	That poll has nothing to do with this. That only proves my earlier point that just because someone says something it doesn't make it logical.



Mihawk	Oct 14 2011, 10:49 PM Post #34
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	Quote: So if I want to disprove god without using the bible how would I go about it? You can't. You don't have to win every argument. I'm well aware that the bible has errors but I haven't talked about it once so I don't know why it keeps being brought up. Quote: You simply can't disprove it, but the same holds true for all the crazy things out in the universe that are majorly accepted to be false. If your argument ends on, disprove God without using the records of him then it's a pointless argument to begin with. Of course the probability of him existing in this situation is so close to 0% it's not even funny... Many people disagree with your 0%. Many people feel 99.9(bar)% that there's a designer (and designer would be God in God theory) which I posted before. Again, it comes down to opinion which I've been trying to say for a long time now. Just because someone says it's true doesn't mean it is.



Cal	Oct 14 2011, 10:51 PM Post #35
I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade! Posts: 5,259 Group: Member Member #6,087 Joined: April 25, 2011 Gender Female Favourite Anime hentai What Browser do you use? hentaibrowser Favourite Manga hentai	Yes, it does end with an opinion. However why I keep replying is because I want to make sure you understand that an opinion =/= logic They're not equal.



Mihawk	Oct 14 2011, 11:03 PM Post #36
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	They aren't equal exactly, but logic is often based off opinion which is why it can be abused. For example again, many people thought that the war in iraq is logical, but that doesn't make it true. When something isn't a true, it's an opinion or false.



SirParagon	Oct 15 2011, 12:16 AM Post #37
Sparking! Posts: 808 Group: Duplicate Member #6,577 Joined: August 7, 2011 Favourite Anime Baccano, Mushi-shi, Excel Saga, NHK What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	illstand1 Oct 14 2011, 11:03 PM They aren't equal exactly, but logic is often based off opinion which is why it can be abused. For example again, many people thought that the war in iraq is logical, but that doesn't make it true. When something isn't a true, it's an opinion or false. Logic is logic, it cannot be abused. 2 + 2 = 4 is not an opinion. False ideas can be used to form false logic if you're ignorant about certain truths. Edited by SirParagon, Oct 15 2011, 12:23 AM.
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~~Destiny~~	Oct 15 2011, 01:32 AM Post #38
Posts: 7,206 Group: GTFO Member #5,331 Joined: October 16, 2010	illstand1 http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8373615&t=8318631 They aren't equal exactly, but logic is often based off opinion which is why it can be abused. For example again, many people thought that the war in iraq is logical, but that doesn't make it true. When something isn't a true, it's an opinion or false. You're speaking in the Philosophical sense that not everything can be proven true. While that is true in that sense. In real world truths we CAN prove things to be true. For example you may change 2 +2 to equal something else by changing words or symbols. But the true foundation of it still holds true. However logic can be changed though it would have to come in the way of changing how we perceive things to be false(that can't be confirmed so isn't taken seriously) Quote: many people thought that the war in iraq is logical What do you mean "logical" here? That it was right to go to war?



Mihawk	Oct 15 2011, 02:58 AM Post #39
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	No no, you guys are saying it all wrong. It's two different arguments. 2+2 is correct and is logical since it's not a shady/controversial area. When we are speaking in terms when we have little info and are controversial (such as the existence of weapons of iraq, or God), then it's a different type of logic that's called subjective logic. That's when it's to each his own. You can read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjective_logic. Anyway this type of thing helps you in your argument against "Creationists" since they tend to say things like "believe in yourself" and "feel christ and you'll undedstand" and that's logic for them. When you throw away subjective logic then the only thing left is science which in it's bear state favors neither argument.



~~Destiny~~	Oct 15 2011, 03:07 AM Post #40
Posts: 7,206 Group: GTFO Member #5,331 Joined: October 16, 2010	illstand1 http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8373695&t=8318631 No no, you guys are saying it all wrong. It's two different arguments. 2+2 is correct and is logical since it's not a shady/controversial area. When we are speaking in terms when we have little info and are controversial (such as the existence of weapons of iraq, or God), then it's a different type of logic that's called subjective logic. That's when it's to each his own. You can read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjective_logic. Anyway this type of thing helps you in your argument against "Creationists" since they tend to say things like "believe in yourself" and "feel christ and you'll undedstand" and that's logic for them. When you throw away subjective logic then the only thing left is science which in it's bear state favors neither argument. I understand now what you're saying. Obviously these debates will always endure with both sides feeling they are right. Some theories of science don't favor religion(Abrahamic ones mostly) though I'll leave that out of this and be done with this thread.



Sam	Oct 15 2011, 05:34 AM Post #41
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